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At one level, it seems easy to say you find God in nature--we can talk about the beauty of sunsets and butterflies all day long. But are there limits to what kinds of things we can say about God from the world around us? And are there signs of God's presence and goodness even among the things we don't think are lovely or useful, too? In this episode of Crazy Faith Talk, pastors Erica, Sarah, and Steve explore these kinds of questions, from how do I see God in the mud or in creatures I don't particularly "like", to asking how much we are supposed to make of the realities of death and violence in nature. Does the rule of predators dominating prey also mean that God wills for the strong to dominate the weak? And what does our hope in a new creation where lambs and wolves lie down together in peace mean for how much we build our theology around what seems "natural" now? And if God can love and value things in the ecosystem whether or not I appreciate them, can I recognize that God loves the parts of me that I struggle to accept? Join us for this conversation here on Crazy Faith Talk!